This episode was inspired by Michelle Obama speaking truth to “Lean In.”

Amy & Dana talk about their own distinct experiences balancing their professional aspirations and the tug of their families—and how that balance is continually shifting in surprising ways.

Sadly, we’re not going to tell you how to stop juggling too many balls in the air. We just want to help you identify the right balls for YOU. (NB: Amy is restraining herself from continuing this train of thought for three more paragraphs in which she would repeat the word “balls” and associated terms tens of times. Her restraint is a generous act of sacrifice on behalf of her co-host’s professional reputation.)

Find out when judging other parents can actually be productive. Because, c’mon, you already know when it isn’t!